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Steven J. Bell writes about aggregators in the latest Ex Libris. A few quotes (with my comments to follow):
"RSS and news aggregator enthusiasts will emphasize that these technologies will save you time as they improve your access to news and information. But does the time required to obtain the necessary skills to use them payoff in the long run? I'm suspicious of anyone who claims something is easy and fast to learn and implement, but tells me I need to first read a four-page article that explains how it works. I exchanged e-mail with Marylaine about this, and she admitted feeling guilty about not having the time to develop some expertise with RSS and news aggregators."
I respect Steven's opinion on this subject, but as an advocate of RSS, I believe that it is my responsibility to retort. First, RSS via a news aggregator is not difficult to learn. In fact, its quite easy. When Jenny first turned me on to RSS, it took me no less than 20 minutes to download (why has that become such a dirty word these days?) Newzcrawler and start adding feeds. And a four page article (I'm only going to guess that he is referring to mine, but I could be wrong) is nothing compared to the massive number of boring library texts that we read in library school that taught us how to be good (GASP!!) librarians. If a four page article is too long a read to learn a new technology (a really useful technology), then maybe there is absoulely no time to keep up. On with Bell's article:
"I'm sure the proponents of RSS and news aggregators, the same ones pushing this as a keeping up option at conferences or in articles and books, will consider my perspective as Luddite in nature. They may even claim I'm trying to protect my own "keeping up" turf or expertise from obsolescence."
Nope, I don't think Steven is a Luddite at all. He attempted to use RSS feeds to keep up, and it didn't work for him. Thats fine. A Luddite is someone who downright rufues to try new things because they are afraid of change. I know Steven via e-mail exchanges (and a common goal for currency) and he is far from a Luddite. Plus, there shouldn't be a "keeping up turf". We all need to share our ideas about our wonderful profession and keeping up with the trends. Thats one of the reasons why I love librarianship, because of the community aspect. No one is better than anybody else. We are in this together. Two more quotes:
"It's easy to become enamored with a new technology, and to want to proselytize your colleagues into the fold. But the proponents of RSS and news aggregators are misguided in advocating them for keeping up. Keeping up should be based on a strategy. Individuals need to determine what they need to know, what resources will deliver that needed information, how much time they can commit, and what is the best way to get the right mix delivered with the least amount of effort. It's all about maintaining control over the information stream that flows to your desktop."
Misguided? I just don't see how a technology as simple as RSS can be avoided as a step in the right direction for keeping current? I am far from a techie. I know practically nothing about the inner workings of Aggregators. What I know is that they do the job for me. Everything that I read in the past (by going to the sites themselves and retrieving newsletters via e-mail - bah!!) now comes to me in one space. How is that misguided? I think thats pretty "guided", dontcha think? But alas, lets let the librarians decide for themselves, eh? Also, one thought about maintaining control over information. I have more control of information in my aggregator now than I did when it came in over e-mail. For me, it separates content from communication. I like that separatation. One last quote:
"New information technologies make good topics for articles and workshops, and may even serve as breeding ground for tomorrow's guru. Our profession has a propensity to put new technologies on a pedestal, and hype them as the next great thing. Who doesn't want to discover the next "killer app"?
Librarians should put new technologies on a pedestal. If we don't, then another professional will, and we'll miss out on being the ones to bring it to the people...our patrons...you know, the ones who pay our salaries. We owe it to them as information and content providers. If they choose not to use RSS, then fine, but at least we gave them the opportunity to try it out. And we are looked upon as (GASP!!) hip professionals.
All in all, Steven makes some good points here. RSS is not for everyone. While I tout its benefits, there are drawbacks, just as there are drawbacks to every technology, even e-mail. For those out there that want to try RSS, go for it. For those that want to be left behind (joking!!!), then don't. Either way, Steven and I can agree that keeping current is most important. On a similar note, maybe Steven should hook up with Mark Jones and start a club.
I read this post, as I read all my library 'blogs, via my aggregator. I use Bloglines - it took me about two minutes to set up an account, and takes me about 10 seconds (and 3-4 mouseclicks) to subscribe to a new feed (go to web page, right click on XML button, click copy link location, click back to Bloglines, paste the link into the 'subscribe' box and press enter). This is not rocket science. Sure, the arcana of RSS takes a little longer to learn, but I bet most librarians could learn to use Bloglines or something similar in about 5 minutes.
Posted by: Simon on September 4, 2003 10:43 PMI already said what I have to say about the topic so I won't re-hash my arguments here. Steven's retort is fair and balanced (excuse the cliche),and I appreciate his thoughtful comments. These are the exact points I would expect him to make. Just two things. Keep in mind that my piece is for a specific audience - those who are only fleetingly familar (or not at all) with blogs, RSS, etc. I've been informally asking local colleagues about these technologies and virtually all do not know what I'm talking about. I'd like to see these folks taking steps to become more knowledgeable - and in time they will know more about these technologies and perhaps decide to use them. But they need to start with something pretty non-technical - such as email newsletters - before jumping to something like Bloglines - because that still requires you to know you need to get there URL of the RSS feed. Seems easy, but not everyone gets this stuff. So I want those folks to know they have options that don't require picking up on the new jargon. Or else they won't start at all.
Second, personally I have no problem with RSS and use both Bloglines (which says it will be adding an email alert) and Bloglet to track RSS feeds (though I don't quite consider them aggregators (not clear if Simon is confusing them - if so - it goes to show it's not all that simple). I find it a convenient way to follow blogs - especially non-library ones - but I don't think lots of folks are ready for this. And the bottom line is - you probably don't need it if you are looking to keep up with basic library news, events and developments. And if this is all (RSS and aggregators) you do to get your news - you'll miss lots of other things that aren't available in RSS format yet. Some things still only come by e-mail - and some require a web-page change detection service. The folks who are really intent on keeping up will use them all - along with RSS feeds.
I would re-state that for the great majority of librarians these services are not yet ready for prime-time, but like many early technologies, they probably will be in time. For now, I don't think librarians need to be made to feel like they are missing out (or technologically out of the loop) if they don't jump on this bandwagon.
Posted by: steven bell on September 5, 2003 12:58 PMHmmm, it seems to me that the "great majority of librarians" are notorious for grasping onto a technology only as it begins its descent into obsolescence. Too little, much too late. The goal of learning about syndication and RSS is not simply to acquire a bleeding-edge means to keep current with library news; it's about thinking forwardly with regard to how information is produced, sought and used. Which is to say, it's about being an information professional.
Librarians need to be ahead of the curve, not lagging behind it. The sort of inertial mentality (from many librarians, not necessarily Mr. Bell) that has us learning about email newsletters at this late stage is indicative of why libraries consistently teeter on the brink of extinction. We need to anticipate, manage and espouse change, not wait for it to be "ready for prime-time." The gaining momentum of syndication forebodes a noteworthy shift in the way information is accessed and used online. Librarians would do well to be familiar with it, whether it proves useful to their personal info-seeking behavior or not.
Having spewed accordingly, I'll add that Bloglines is most definitely "a server-based RSS aggregation system."
When one is familiar with a technology, it can be really easy to say "it's the best thing ever" and not be able to work out why others don't get it. I once tried to teach myself C and couldn't do it. And that's fine, because I know how to do other things.
RSS reminds me a little of the e-book thing. I know a lot of people who jumped on that, wrote a lot of papers, specialised as being an e-book expert, and have now been burned as they were largely a failure.
That's not to say RSS will fail, but I don't think we should put our eggs in one basket. RSS is a wonderful thing, and we should be continually working to see how best to use it in libraries for our patrons and our own professional development, along with all the other technologies out there. So some people don't know how to use RSS, that's ok, maybe they have expertise in virtual reference. We all have different strengths and different opinions.
Steven you mention download being a dirty word - remember in 1995 that the goal of the Internet was to have web based applications and we would never need to download anything (or at least, that's what Java was supposed to do)? We seem to be moving further and further away from that goal. I download more and more little apps than ever that would work just as well as part of a browser or server-side. Plus of course, I can't introduce RSS to my library's patrons as I can't install any software at work. So web based is goooood. I'm going to sign up for bloglines for work feeds and install zvonfeeds on my website for other feeds.
Posted by: Fiona on September 5, 2003 10:50 PMWhy do people feel like they need to learn about a new technology before they use it? People don't have to know html or how to write the code for a web browser in order to use the web.
Speaking only for myself, I do not tend to be very good at reading directions (even if it is only a 4 page long article) about new technology before I get the urge to just jump in and start using it. It was pretty simple to download a couple of aggregators, look for the little orange xml or rss buttons, find some feeds and get started. I'm not yet at the point where I'm reading everything via RSS that I could, but I'm sure I'll get there eventually.
It is not to hard to imagine a time when we might have to help someone out at the reference desk by having a little background knowledge about rss feed discovery tools like feedster vs syndic8.
For me e-mail newsletters as a way of keeping current are just not a priority because I want to keep current in a variety of topics. There aren't enough e-mail newsletters that can keep me updated on library blogs, library instruction, book reviews, anime, and whatever warren ellis happens to be thinking at the moment. My e-mail box is so flooded with listserv messages, I don't want to add a group of newsletters to wade through when I have the option to set up and maintain my own individualized current awareness service about whatever I might be interested in via RSS.
There's nothing wrong with being a cheerleader for new technology!
Actually, at this point, RSS is getting old, what's next?
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Posted by: tangognat on September 5, 2003 11:32 PMSteven: yes, I was talking about Bloglines - I consider it an aggregator, just a web-based one rather than desktop based. Possibly that's incorrect terminology, but it fulfils the same functions as a desktop-based aggregator, so might as well call it by the same name. It works for me, and I think anyone else could learn to use it too.
Posted by: Simon on September 7, 2003 09:34 PMFirst: Jeeze this damn comment thing is a major pain in the ass to read and use!
Steven M. Cohen is already familiar with my feelings on RSS, so here's a good place to share with others. For me, RSS is a way to PUSH content. I use it as a creator, rather than a consumer. Through LISFeeds and LISNews it sends stuff out to people.
For me that's all RSS is good for. If I am reading the news I'm not just "keeping up" I'm hunting for something new. I'm looking for news that seems interesting. I want all the raw news I can get (raw meaning it hasn't been filtered through blogs, not raw like, well you know) since the idea is LISNews is a place to share and report on things, I shouldn't be looking for things that you can just read somewhere else. That's not to say I avoid things I read other places, though now that I think about it, I really don't read many other blogs.
Steven M. Cohen and Steven Bell both raise good points, though I might say "Librarians should put some new technologies on a pedestal" but how we can figure out which ones will be winners, and which losers is anyones guess, remember pointcast? Though, all wasn't implied there, it's important we don't jump on things too quickly, which is what I think Bell was saying.
I do think I doubt the typical librarian needs to invest the time required to learn how to implement some technologies. If we are a bunch of old near retirement baby boomers just coasting through the last few years of our careers, then we are worse off than if we are jumping on every new thing that comes along.
Posted with out much thought, and no rewrites... may make no sense to anyone.
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